This is a reply to KarenR from a comment she made on the MMR/Autism blog entry the other day.
The information to make an informed choice is also not readily available.
You are so right about this. I have found that you seem to have two camps - the fors and the againsts. The fors are completely brainwashed by the system and the againsts tend towards the hippie weirdo types. There doesn't seem to be a group of normal folk with no axe to grind.
For instance, having read loads of research, I decided that in this country the chance of getting nasty sequelae of any jab (hey, not heard 'jag' for ages!) was greater than the chance of getting a side effect from the diseases.
Yes, I think a lot of the carriers of the vaccinations can be worse for folk than the actual disease. Mercury is a fun example (although I think they've stopped this, now, haven't they?). There is a Dr in America who has done several MS studies, and have decided that MS is triggered by too many heavy metals in the system, starting originally with vaccinations and continuing thru hair dye and so on. I don't know whether he is taken too seriously though - i think he's been painted with the 'fringe medicine' brush.
However, if he heads off to another country, I will reassess the danger. For India, he'll definitely need ditheria/tetanus anyway, so he's getting those when he's five. That's another thing they don't tell you - you can hold off vaccinations until children are older.
Well, yes, but the chances of me and mine going abroad are slim to non-existant because Himself and I hate to fly. 
I think MMR versus single vaccines has actually been a bit of misinformation that has hidden the entire issue of vaccines - I don't believe MMR is any more dangerous than single vaccines, because the single vaccines have all the inherent dangers of any vaccine. At least MMR is only one dose of preservatives. Then again, it's probably not a good idea to inject lots of different stuff in a little body at once.
I think the protest about the MMR joint vaccine is because they are given all at once, and if the body reacts against them then it is likely to be three times as bad than if they react against one jag. Vaccine overload. Now they have the 5-in-1 there is more of a risk of this.
The major problem with all the vaccine studies (climbs on soapbox) is that they compare children having a vaccine with children having a different vaccine.
Now this is very interesting. I didn't know that. I thought the comparison children we un-vaccinated. That is just stupid doing it the way they do, then!
Another thing I have been told by an old health visitor is that the original study done, that raised the MMR/Autism link, was only done on 19 children. Hardly a huge cross section of the population!
There is also that thing that you only do an investigation when you are pretty sure you'll get the answer you want(gets off soap box).
Yes, this is something I believe as well. The folk who pay for the study are generally quite happy with the results IMO.
I suspect that a lot of autoimmune stuff may be due to vaccine remnants lodged in tissue.
Interesting. See my MS comments, above.
Craniosacrally, autistic children have tight membranes, probably due to inflammation, and this inflammation could be caused by vaccines in early life. But craniosacral therapy is poo-pooed by 'scientists' (anything they don't understand cannot be science, is the way they think).
I'm not quite sure what you mean by this. How can you tell? I took Laura for cranial osteopathy when she was a baby, which I think we have discussed before, but this is a different field to you, isn't it? A lot of this stuff is poo-poohed, which drives me nuts because so much of it is beneficial. I think it all comes back to the witch hunts of hundreds of years ago, by the Church. Only 'serious' science done by (and approved) men is The Truth. Anything that isn't mainstream can't possibly be right.
People are also not told that vaccine protection wears off after so long - so come age 20, children are no longer protected - and nor are their babies.
I was told this by my GP, after I had kicked up the stink about having Anthony get a blood test to test immunity. Man, did that go down like a shit sandwich! I finally had a sensible conversation with a decent, broader minded GP, and he admitted this. I just told him that Anthony could then make his own decision about what vaccinations he wanted.
The medical profession really really wants people to fit in, and do as they are told, don't they? I had a similar, disapproving experience when I decided to birth Rachel at home. Off topic. Sorry.
Babies of those of us who miraculously lived through all the childhood diseases without injury are protected by our immunity. Hence the increase in measles in babies.
Now this is interesting. Can you expand upon it?
The whole herd immunity thing means we also vaccinate babies against things that don't harm them (rubella, mumps for girls) for the sake of those who may be harmed. In fact, even with boys, if they get mumps as children, they are less likely to have problems than if they get it as adults, when their vaccine immunity has worn off.
I had this conversation recently with someone I know, who insisted that girls needed to be vaccinated against these things as well because they could carry them and spread them around.
In fact, governments are totally gung ho with vaccines - as you say, not checking immunity before giving 'boosters'. These are actually not boosters at all - they are extra vaccinations given to all children because some will not gain immunity the first time around.
Thank you. My thoughts exactly. They want everyone to do the same thing, rather than treat each person as an individual. I think a lot of it comes down to money.
Then there is drug company pressure. Chicken pox has got much less horrible even during my lifetime, and is now relatively innocuous, yet we are being told it is a killer - strangely just as a vaccine has been developed. Fear is used to drive our behaviour. These messages about how deadly and damaging measles is weren't around when we were kids.
I have actually had measles when I was a kid. I'm still here (although some people may wish I weren't!). Another thing is the huge disapproval one gets stepping out of the norm. Not just with peers, but also with the medical profession. Most people have the sheep mentality, and people who deviate from that are viewed as weird, negligent or just plain stupid.